Looking Westawrd
Asibaddhaka (SN 42.6)
1. At one time the Blessed One lived in Pāvārika's mango orchard in Nālandā.
2. Then Gāmaṇi the son of Asibandhaka approached the Blessed One, worshipped and sat on a side.
3. Sitting on a side Gāmaṇi the son of Asibandhaka said to the Blessed One: “Venerable sir, the Brahmins look at the west with a water pot that has a long spout, make garlands of moss, plunge into the water and attend on the fire, announcing to the dead to make them enter heaven. Venerable sir, the Blessed One is worthy, rightfully enlightened and could make possible for all to be born in good states, be born in heaven!”
4. “Therefore Gāmaṇi, I will cross question you on this and you may reply as it pleases you!”
5. “Gāmaṇi, there is a man who destroys living things, takes the not given, misbehaves sexually, tells lies, slanders, talks roughly, talks frivolously, covets, bears an angry mind and has wrong view. A large crowd get together implore, extol, with clasped hands show interest, for that man's birth in a good state, in heaven, after death. May this man after death go to a good state be born in heaven! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together, imploring, extolling and showing interest with clasped hands go to a good state, be born in heaven?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
6. “Gāmaṇi, like a man who had dumped a huge rock in a deep pond. Then a large crowd get together implore, extol and with clasped hands show interest, saying `Good huge rock come up! Good huge rock rise up to hard ground! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together imploring, extolling and with clasped hands showing interest would the huge rock rise up and come to hard ground?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
“In the same manner Gāmaṇi, to a man who destroys living things, takes the not given, misbehaves sexually, tells lies, slanders, talks roughly, talks frivolously, covets, bears an angry mind and has wrong view. However much a large crowd would get together implore, extol, with clasped hands showing interest, for his birth in a good state, in heaven, after death, he would go to decrease, to a bad state will be born in hell.
7. “Gāmaṇi, there is a man who does not, destroy living things, take the not given, misbehave sexually, tell lies, slander, talk roughly, talk frivolously, covet, bear an angry mind and has right view. A large crowd get together implore, extol, with clasped hands show interest, for that man's birth in a bad state, in hell, after death. May this man after death go to a bad state be born in hell! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together, imploring, extolling and showing interest with clasped hands would that man go to a bad state, be born in hell?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
8. “Gāmaṇi, like a man who had dumped a pot of ghee or oil in a deep pond and has broken the pot, whatever hard parts and the molasses would sink down and the ghee or oil would rise up Then a large crowd get together implore, extol and with clasped hands show interest, saying `Good ghee sink! Good oil sink! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together imploring, extolling and with clasped hands showing interest would the ghee or the oil sink?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
“In the same manner Gāmaṇi, to a man who does not, destroy living things, take the not given, misbehave sexually, tell lies, slander, talk roughly, talk frivolously, covet, bear an angry mind and has right view. However much a large crowd would get together implore, extol, with clasped hands showing interest, for his birth in a bad state, in hell, after death, he would go to increase, to a good state will be born in heaven
8. When this was said Gāmaṇi the son of Asibandhaka said: “Venerable sir, now I understand, it is like something overturned is put upright, something covered is made manifest, as though the way was shown when someone has lost his way, as though an oil lamp is lighted for the darkness, for those who have sight to see forms. In this manner the Blessed One has explained the Teaching in many ways. Now I take refuge in the Blessed One. Remember me as a lay disciple who has taken refuge until I live.”
2. Then Gāmaṇi the son of Asibandhaka approached the Blessed One, worshipped and sat on a side.
3. Sitting on a side Gāmaṇi the son of Asibandhaka said to the Blessed One: “Venerable sir, the Brahmins look at the west with a water pot that has a long spout, make garlands of moss, plunge into the water and attend on the fire, announcing to the dead to make them enter heaven. Venerable sir, the Blessed One is worthy, rightfully enlightened and could make possible for all to be born in good states, be born in heaven!”
4. “Therefore Gāmaṇi, I will cross question you on this and you may reply as it pleases you!”
5. “Gāmaṇi, there is a man who destroys living things, takes the not given, misbehaves sexually, tells lies, slanders, talks roughly, talks frivolously, covets, bears an angry mind and has wrong view. A large crowd get together implore, extol, with clasped hands show interest, for that man's birth in a good state, in heaven, after death. May this man after death go to a good state be born in heaven! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together, imploring, extolling and showing interest with clasped hands go to a good state, be born in heaven?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
6. “Gāmaṇi, like a man who had dumped a huge rock in a deep pond. Then a large crowd get together implore, extol and with clasped hands show interest, saying `Good huge rock come up! Good huge rock rise up to hard ground! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together imploring, extolling and with clasped hands showing interest would the huge rock rise up and come to hard ground?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
“In the same manner Gāmaṇi, to a man who destroys living things, takes the not given, misbehaves sexually, tells lies, slanders, talks roughly, talks frivolously, covets, bears an angry mind and has wrong view. However much a large crowd would get together implore, extol, with clasped hands showing interest, for his birth in a good state, in heaven, after death, he would go to decrease, to a bad state will be born in hell.
7. “Gāmaṇi, there is a man who does not, destroy living things, take the not given, misbehave sexually, tell lies, slander, talk roughly, talk frivolously, covet, bear an angry mind and has right view. A large crowd get together implore, extol, with clasped hands show interest, for that man's birth in a bad state, in hell, after death. May this man after death go to a bad state be born in hell! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together, imploring, extolling and showing interest with clasped hands would that man go to a bad state, be born in hell?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
8. “Gāmaṇi, like a man who had dumped a pot of ghee or oil in a deep pond and has broken the pot, whatever hard parts and the molasses would sink down and the ghee or oil would rise up Then a large crowd get together implore, extol and with clasped hands show interest, saying `Good ghee sink! Good oil sink! Gāmaṇi, on account of the large crowd getting together imploring, extolling and with clasped hands showing interest would the ghee or the oil sink?”
“Venerable sir, it would not happen.”
“In the same manner Gāmaṇi, to a man who does not, destroy living things, take the not given, misbehave sexually, tell lies, slander, talk roughly, talk frivolously, covet, bear an angry mind and has right view. However much a large crowd would get together implore, extol, with clasped hands showing interest, for his birth in a bad state, in hell, after death, he would go to increase, to a good state will be born in heaven
8. When this was said Gāmaṇi the son of Asibandhaka said: “Venerable sir, now I understand, it is like something overturned is put upright, something covered is made manifest, as though the way was shown when someone has lost his way, as though an oil lamp is lighted for the darkness, for those who have sight to see forms. In this manner the Blessed One has explained the Teaching in many ways. Now I take refuge in the Blessed One. Remember me as a lay disciple who has taken refuge until I live.”
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